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[00:00] SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Candace Podcast.
[00:06] SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Cynthia Lockfrey from Candace Podcast,
[00:09] SPEAKER_01: where we talk to entrepreneurs who are making it happen right here in BC.
[00:15] SPEAKER_01: Today, I'm joined by Sean, who helps multi-passionate coaches to detox anxiety
[00:22] SPEAKER_01: and embody confidence in their life, body, and soul-driven business
[00:27] SPEAKER_01: with joy at the business of you coaching.
[00:31] SPEAKER_01: So welcome. Why don't you say your name in case I said it incorrectly
[00:36] SPEAKER_01: and tell us about yourself and the work you do?
[00:40] SPEAKER_02: Love that. Hi, Cynthia. It's so great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
[00:44] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so my name is Sean, and it's got that Irish tone to it.
[00:49] SPEAKER_02: So you got to kind of get your best accent on to say it, right? I guess.
[00:53] SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'm a multi-passionate coach.
[00:57] SPEAKER_02: And so as someone who's an author, a poet, a performer, as well as someone
[01:02] SPEAKER_02: who is supporting multi-passionate coaches in detoxing anxiety and aligning
[01:07] SPEAKER_02: with their soul-driven purpose and mission and their life, body, and business,
[01:11] SPEAKER_02: that's what I do. I wear many hats.
[01:14] SPEAKER_02: Great. And how did you come into this work?
[01:18] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so this was a very long time ago, and it was actually,
[01:23] SPEAKER_02: I think sometimes we get those callings, and when I picked up the phone,
[01:29] SPEAKER_02: this is where it led me to. And originally, I had started out as an athlete.
[01:34] SPEAKER_02: I was a semi-professional soccer player. And after I left the pitch,
[01:41] SPEAKER_02: I really went through a challenging time that forced me to kind of go
[01:46] SPEAKER_02: to a little bit more of the dark night of the soul, if you wish, at a young age.
[01:51] SPEAKER_02: And that put me into this opportunity, I would say, to get to know myself better.
[01:59] SPEAKER_02: And that leaned me into opening up the door to what I call the vibrant way,
[02:06] SPEAKER_02: the path. And so I started walking that journey. And as I did that,
[02:11] SPEAKER_02: so many of the types of synchronicities and opportunities that came my way
[02:18] SPEAKER_02: allowed me to forge the path that I have in terms of, you know,
[02:25] SPEAKER_02: embodying being a poet and being an author, and actually starting on this journey
[02:31] SPEAKER_02: of taking what I had learned, and also the knowledge that I had,
[02:36] SPEAKER_02: and sharing it with other people in what is now the vibrant living way,
[02:41] SPEAKER_02: methodology that I educate and teach my coaching practice.
[02:45] SPEAKER_01: I love that. Now, you could have gone to a nine to five job, you know,
[02:50] SPEAKER_01: with that safe paycheck. So what need you go, nope, I'm going to be an entrepreneur
[02:57] SPEAKER_02: and do it my way. I think there's two things, honestly.
[03:03] SPEAKER_02: I've always had a really great work ethic, and I've always been good at working
[03:10] SPEAKER_02: for people or with people to a certain extent. But I would technically call myself
[03:16] SPEAKER_02: a bad employee, because I personally never felt the level of joy that I really desired.
[03:25] SPEAKER_02: And I always felt held back and constricted.
[03:28] SPEAKER_02: And so that didn't leave enough room for levels of expansion and growth at the level that I wanted.
[03:37] SPEAKER_02: And so for me, I would be in environments going, well, I could just do this better.
[03:43] SPEAKER_02: So whenever you get to those points, you're just like, okay, well,
[03:47] SPEAKER_02: we're going to have to do our own thing and start paving our own path if that's what we think.
[03:52] SPEAKER_02: So that's one of the reasons why. And the other reason too, because it is challenging
[03:58] SPEAKER_02: to start that journey is ultimately, I started making the walk from the head to the heart in my 20s.
[04:08] SPEAKER_02: And that that's life changing. It's something that when you answer that call, there's no going back.
[04:18] SPEAKER_02: And so it was kind of the quintessential Tony Robbins burn your boats.
[04:24] SPEAKER_02: And that's what I did. Yeah.
[04:27] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. And I think when you go from the head to the heart, there's not always space for that in traditional workplaces.
[04:36] SPEAKER_01: So I love I would make an absolutely horrible employee as well for that reason.
[04:42] SPEAKER_01: I want to follow my passion. So talking about passion, what are you most proud of in terms of the work that you do?
[04:52] SPEAKER_02: I am very proud of.
[04:56] SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm really proud of the people that I get to work with and connect with because it takes a lot of courage to ask for help.
[05:07] SPEAKER_02: It takes a lot of courage to change and to be open to a new belief system and recalibrate yourself into a process of transformation.
[05:20] SPEAKER_02: And I'm proud that I get to be a part of witnessing that process and other people because it's a form of connection that you don't get in the 9 to 5 workplace all the time.
[05:33] SPEAKER_02: It's totally unique.
[05:34] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. And I think it's just incredible that your coach who works with coaches and sometimes people think coaches have all the answers.
[05:44] SPEAKER_01: But coaches, I do coaching and I have a coach.
[05:49] SPEAKER_01: And what do you think that's important?
[05:52] SPEAKER_02: It's important. Why do I think it's important that people have coaches or why do I think it's important?
[05:58] SPEAKER_01: Both. Both. Both. Why should people have coaches for those listening who don't and for those who are coaches, why do you need a little step up?
[06:08] SPEAKER_02: Well, I think that other people can see your blind spots and that's really, really important.
[06:15] SPEAKER_02: And at the end of the day, when we're working with levels of patterns that don't serve us, it's the pattern that is creating the constriction versus allowing us to move into growth and expansion.
[06:27] SPEAKER_02: And the line with the highest possible timeline that we can slide over to.
[06:32] SPEAKER_02: And so by working with practitioners in your health and in coaching, it helps to have someone else's observations on your blind spots as well as to give you the tools, the strategies so that you don't have to take as many U turns along the way.
[06:54] SPEAKER_02: And I think that, you know, I have my coaches of various different arenas that I go to when I need to be or or if I know I want to get to a certain level and I don't know how to do it, I would, I would invest in myself to be able to learn how to take a shortcut versus trying to do something that I've never done and not knowing all the holes in the gaps and trying to do it myself.
[07:22] SPEAKER_01: And I think with entrepreneurs, you know, we hire accountants because we don't want to be audited at tax season or we hire a lawyer when we need to figure out a contract, but for those listening, I think coaches is another sphere that we need to hire out support.
[07:43] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's different coaching is a lot different than I would say regular counseling, right? When you're working with coaches or at least in my practice, it's very much where, where are you currently and what is the vision, right?
[08:01] SPEAKER_02: If you don't have a clear vision and a process of reverse engineering, that and it doesn't have to be perfect, but if someone else has the tools, strategies and can pick apart the blind spots that you have on, then it's going to help you to fast track your growth personally that has to happen in order for your external reality to ship.
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[08:38] SPEAKER_01: So you work with entrepreneurs, so anybody who's listening, who's thinking, maybe I'll take that leap and move into being an entrepreneur, is there any advice that you give them?
[08:52] SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's so much advice, but which one to choose from?
[08:57] SPEAKER_02: It's a, I would say that it's such a balance.
[09:02] SPEAKER_02: It's a balance of what I would like to call, you know, the to do and to be list within the vibrant living way.
[09:10] SPEAKER_02: It's really understanding a what is the vision, what is what do you need to do in terms of your human duties day to day to move the needle towards that vision.
[09:22] SPEAKER_02: But even more important to that, you have to learn how to align with with your energy and your being practices that nourish you.
[09:35] SPEAKER_02: Because so often if you are going from levels of stability, right, which feels safe and comfortable now you're moving into a completely different comfort zone, discomfort zone or moving into that discomfort that's so new.
[09:51] SPEAKER_02: It really can trigger your nervous system.
[09:56] SPEAKER_02: And so having core practices that support you and not only grounding, but knowing how to take care of number one, that is the only way that you can actually create levels of success.
[10:08] SPEAKER_02: And that's the only way that you can actually have the film and enjoy at the end of the day versus hustling and going into hustle, lull it and hustle culture and trying to do so many things versus enjoying the process.
[10:21] SPEAKER_02: And learning and feeling forward.
[10:24] SPEAKER_01: And you know, I've interviewed a lot of entrepreneurs on the show and I have heard privately the stories of burnout, the stories of learning this lesson, the hard way.
[10:37] SPEAKER_01: And people, you know, we'll be talking later, you know, about how do you handle success.
[10:44] SPEAKER_01: And I had one entrepreneur say, I don't celebrate it.
[10:50] SPEAKER_01: But I sure follow in the misery.
[10:52] SPEAKER_01: And in that interview, he said that was a huge wake up call for him, just a simple question about, you know, how do you celebrate success.
[11:02] SPEAKER_01: But so why don't we actually, why don't we ask you that right now? How do you define success and how do you celebrate it?
[11:15] SPEAKER_02: I think truly to me, success is really having a good understanding of who you are in your essence.
[11:24] SPEAKER_02: And I think that that is true success because I sense that a lot of people don't have that connection with themselves.
[11:34] SPEAKER_02: And what happens when you don't have that connection is you fall prey to the external pressure or the external projection of what you should be or what other people in your environment feel you should or need to be for them.
[11:54] SPEAKER_02: And what you can end up doing is going down a route of living and embodiment that is not you and that is not your authentic expression.
[12:04] SPEAKER_02: And so I truly believe that success is knowing yourself.
[12:09] SPEAKER_02: And even if you don't know yourself yet, working on leaning into that, that's success.
[12:16] SPEAKER_02: Because one day you will get to know and develop that connection with yourself where there's just this quiet piece independent of the challenges that come and go in life.
[12:29] SPEAKER_02: And the way that I've I used to be really bad at celebrating success.
[12:34] SPEAKER_02: But to celebrate success, you have to learn how to be present.
[12:39] SPEAKER_02: And I've been very fortunate that I've learned what it means to live in the present moment.
[12:44] SPEAKER_02: And I'm not perfect at it, but I practice.
[12:47] SPEAKER_02: And so when I do have a win, even if I have a very full schedule, I can connect with myself and actually experience that level of fulfillment and joy, even if it's just by myself.
[13:02] SPEAKER_02: For me personally, so for me personally, I've I've learned to celebrate success in different ways, you know, but the most important ways in which I do to make an effort to celebrate my wins and successes is I celebrated it with people who really are for me and support me.
[13:21] SPEAKER_02: And that feels very joyous and it really feels like someone is there to share that moment.
[13:29] SPEAKER_02: And there's been lots of times where I've had big wins and there's no one around but me or, you know, I don't have anything planned, but I make an effort to even just do some of the simple pleasures that day or that evening that just allow me to have a quiet.
[13:48] SPEAKER_02: Heck yes, like this is amazing. You've done you've come so far and and have a cherished moment that I can I can sit with and and be with to celebrate that win.
[14:01] SPEAKER_01: And I think that's so crucial that you sit and be with success because people spend a lot of time sitting and being with challenges, but they don't spend equal or more time in the same set.
[14:15] SPEAKER_01: So yeah, looking at the flip side, how do you deal with any fear and doubt that creeps in?
[14:23] SPEAKER_02: Oh, I've got a lot of tools for that because that's and that's just a part of the game.
[14:28] SPEAKER_02: I think sometimes people think that fear and doubt it just it just dissolves and it goes away.
[14:33] SPEAKER_02: But what actually happens is I I sense in myself it shows up and in different different levels depending on what I'm doing.
[14:41] SPEAKER_02: But I'm a huge proponent for limitless living. The essence of vibrant living is limitless living.
[14:49] SPEAKER_02: And so I'm always living at my edge in a few arenas at least, which I'm exposing myself to that fear and exposing myself to that subconscious doubt.
[15:02] SPEAKER_02: And I'm challenging it and that's usually how I ideal with it is by facing it.
[15:09] SPEAKER_02: And and then recognizing what kind of voices and or thoughts come up that I get to observe in that space and get to re calibrate whether or not those are still true or not.
[15:26] SPEAKER_02: And it's it's the space that I start to create between that by grounding.
[15:32] SPEAKER_02: And so finding my feet is a regular thing day to day when I'm working at my edge.
[15:38] SPEAKER_02: I think about you know root like a tree, you know, I've got some a little bit of that Celtic wisdom woven into me from from my back roots in you know Irish ancestry.
[15:50] SPEAKER_02: And and so I just think you know root like an oak tree, you know stand in the storm and and be with it.
[15:57] SPEAKER_02: And because I think what I've learned over time with fear and doubt and all those things is if you're not willing to bathe in it, you'll never understand how it has a grasp on you.
[16:10] SPEAKER_02: But as soon as you learn, oh, this is where it sits and this is how it moves and this is how it thinks you can start to disidentify from it and recognize who the essence and presence of yourself is without it.
[16:26] SPEAKER_01: I love that I wrote that down stand in the storm and be with it.
[16:32] SPEAKER_01: I think that's going to be the title of this podcast because that's wonderful.
[16:36] SPEAKER_01: Beautiful quote.
[16:38] SPEAKER_01: So you and I are both faced in BC.
[16:41] SPEAKER_01: What is some of the benefits of calling this province home and working from BC and being based here?
[16:51] SPEAKER_02: I mean, we all love the landscape. So I feel like that's one of the reasons we all call this place home.
[16:58] SPEAKER_02: But I was born and raised here and you know, BC is actually such a creative hub.
[17:06] SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm back and forth between Vancouver and Colona and I've met just some of the most intriguing creatives along my journey as artists, musicians, coaches, creatives, just people doing things and expressing themselves and their art in the world.
[17:27] SPEAKER_02: And I think that that's that's something that I see as a big, a big, amazing part of living in BC is, is the people.
[17:37] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the people are absolutely incredible. I'm from Ontario.
[17:41] SPEAKER_01: I won't say negative Ontario, but I will say it's a different vibe here and I love BC.
[17:49] SPEAKER_01: So what are some of the challenges being an entrepreneur in BC?
[17:58] SPEAKER_02: BC in particular, I mean, I think entrepreneurs is just kind of, it's a challenge.
[18:05] SPEAKER_02: You are paving a road for yourself and you're doing something that either hasn't been done yet or is new to you and you've never done it.
[18:15] SPEAKER_02: And that's a tricky and adventurous path to wonder about.
[18:23] SPEAKER_02: But I think that some of the biggest challenges can be, it depends on how you do it.
[18:31] SPEAKER_02: Like I work online a lot and so, but I meet people in person a lot of the time.
[18:38] SPEAKER_02: It could be at a speaking engagement or workshop, things like that.
[18:41] SPEAKER_02: And I think sometimes the barriers can be, if you're not surrounding yourself with the right people, right?
[18:49] SPEAKER_02: So really finding the networks and the groups that align with who you are and what your business is about, that's very, very important.
[18:59] SPEAKER_02: Otherwise that will be a challenge.
[19:01] SPEAKER_02: And I think that overall entrepreneurship in terms of challenges, it's just a skill set of learning and it's about finding the right people to help you and to support you along that path at the end of the day.
[19:19] SPEAKER_02: I think that if you can have those two things externally in your worlds aligned that can really help you to make progress.
[19:32] SPEAKER_02: And the other biggest challenge that I find maybe some people have in NBC is because it's so nice.
[19:40] SPEAKER_02: Most of the time you want to be outside instead of like in your own house doing some of your work.
[19:46] SPEAKER_02: But if you're fortunate to live right by the ocean and have a view or live and have a nice view, it can sometimes draw you away from the things that you know you need to be doing, but you want to be outside.
[20:00] SPEAKER_02: So I get that.
[20:01] SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's a challenge.
[20:03] SPEAKER_01: Thankfully it's raining here today, so I'm okay being endorsed.
[20:07] SPEAKER_01: Right.
[20:08] SPEAKER_01: So what can you do to kind of get that balance to whether it's routine to have in place or just to keep you grounded?
[20:18] SPEAKER_02: I think something that maybe people don't talk enough about in terms of what it takes to be grounded is shaping your character.
[20:31] SPEAKER_02: And really recognizing where patterns or self doubt and just a refinement around your character is a requirement for you to go to that next level.
[20:46] SPEAKER_02: Because for me, that's been something that I've had to work on consistently for years since I was very, very young.
[20:55] SPEAKER_02: That's been something that I've been developing and you don't you don't get to shape your character if if you bow out or if you are are in a place where you're sitting on the fence.
[21:08] SPEAKER_02: Either got to get near enough and face things and move with them and learn how you deal with situations and learn how to shut down, you know, fear, self victimization, all of those things that actually distance you from your true power.
[21:29] SPEAKER_02: Because true power requires capacity and you don't get grounding and you don't get capacity without shaping your character to be able to forge in new environments that are challenging.
[21:45] SPEAKER_02: Right.
[21:45] SPEAKER_02: Your comfort zone, right, when you move into discomfort, that needs to move and mobilize to your new comfort zone and you got to get out of that one.
[21:55] SPEAKER_02: And so being willing, being willing is such an important part of moving through that bridge or creating that bridge and making that leap and making that jump.
[22:12] SPEAKER_02: And grounding practices that are very helpful to supporting you through the challenges and the fear and the doubt, you know, I read a lot.
[22:22] SPEAKER_02: I enjoy doing things that serve and fill me up like I love playing piano and it comes my nervous system down.
[22:30] SPEAKER_02: It also helps me to switch off a part of my brain and give myself a break as well as meditation, heart centered meditation is something that I use as a core practice and exercise and fitness.
[22:41] SPEAKER_02: It's so incredibly important.
[22:44] SPEAKER_02: And what I find is, you know, hustle doubt and entrepreneurs starting out coaches, you know, one of the biggest challenges is restructuring how you take care of yourself and knowing how to take care of your number one human in the process of.
[22:59] SPEAKER_02: You know, I currently don't have a family yet, but you know, if you are a parent starting out in the entrepreneurial world, learning how to put yourself first is so, so key because you can't pour from an empty cup.
[23:15] SPEAKER_02: So it's very, very important to learn how to self care, how to self love and how to nurture yourself because there are going to be failures.
[23:25] SPEAKER_02: That's that's only how you get to success is learning how to take the falls, take the hits and learning the spark, learning the seed in that message and taking the lesson of you.
[23:36] SPEAKER_01: And one of the things is about mercy at leapsones strategy says is treat yourself like a million dollar client and cancel meetings with the million dollar client would you ignore their needs never.
[23:52] SPEAKER_02: No, no, yeah, we have to be we have to really look at that. And I think to what I would add to that just based off of just things that I see that are really important in terms of your practices is inventory inventory on the people in your life in your life.
[24:15] SPEAKER_02: People who are for you, people who support you, but then also recognizing how you feel when you leave a conversation, recognizing where inside of your container, you might have a leak and you're might you might be getting drained because you know, it's kind of like a boat.
[24:34] SPEAKER_02: If you got a massive hole in it, you can do a bad patch job, but as soon as you're, you know, trying to move in the water, it's going to create all kinds of problems.
[24:44] SPEAKER_02: And sometimes we don't think we're like, oh, I can I can I can still do this or I can make space here and sometimes you have to get to a point where you're like, no, like I can't.
[24:55] SPEAKER_02: And is this is this leak in my tank actually doing a harder or more damage on my my well being my overall health or or am I, you know, not getting into my fitness practices and releasing stress the way that I know I need to be because I'm, I'm, you know, dealing with X.
[25:19] SPEAKER_02: YZ over here and I'm allowing that to be a part of what is included in my life, even if it's not really giving back to you. So look for where there is reciprocity.
[25:33] SPEAKER_02: And I would encourage a monthly inventory on people could be colleagues, friendships, relationships, even even the boundaries that we set with people taking inventory and knowing, you know, because we're all changing.
[25:52] SPEAKER_02: And so how we show up for ourselves and how we show up for other people, there's going to have to be a little bit of flex because we're all very, very dynamic.
[26:03] SPEAKER_02: And if we don't take those things into consideration, we can have big leaks in our tank, which slows down our process of filling ourselves up with fulfillment, which can, you know, ultimately be very, very hard and more challenging in the entrepreneurial journey.
[26:20] SPEAKER_01: I love that. So my last question today for you is, have you read a book or gotten advices or anything that kind of resonates with you that you want to share with our listeners?
[26:35] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think one of the biggest things that I've learned inside of walking the path moving from the head to the heart, creating a coaching practice and just embodying a way of life that allows for me to be more of myself and support and impact other people is being present.
[26:56] SPEAKER_02: And so often we might go through a year or six months or 10 years and we're half asleep. And so one book that really transformed that landscape was not the power of now, but practicing the power of now by Eckhart Toley.
[27:15] SPEAKER_02: It has, it's a very small book, but it has the practical application tools for the overarching theme of the power of now. And so I would say that would be a very great place to start to learn how to be more with the present moment because we experience more of ourselves more fulfillment and joy when we can learn to be in the present moment.
[27:42] SPEAKER_02: And especially as an entrepreneur, when you're venturing out into the forest and carving your own way, there's so many new things to that environment opportunities, as well as challenges and things that you have to watch out for.
[28:02] SPEAKER_02: And failure to be present is so detrimental because when you're not, you're not able to connect with your intuition and your intuition is such a key component that allows for you to make decisions that you don't regret.
[28:22] SPEAKER_01: What a powerful way of ending. So if our listeners want to get a hold of you, how do they find you?
[28:29] SPEAKER_02: Yes, you can find me on Instagram at the business at the business of you and or at the business of you.com as well.
[28:40] SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you.
[28:42] SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, Cynthia. This has been wonderful.
