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[00:16] SPEAKER_01: So, this is Robert Smio, coming to today with Vancouver's podcast, a member of the Canada's
[00:21] SPEAKER_01: podcast network where we talk to the entrepreneurs who are making it happen here in Vancouver,
[00:26] SPEAKER_01: British Columbia, so you can listen, discover and engage. Today's guest is Paul Vane, the tea
[00:32] SPEAKER_01: captain at Justi, the first farmer direct tea partnership between Kenya and Canada. Born and raised
[00:40] SPEAKER_01: in Vancouver, Paul is passionate to connect tea drinkers with a small-scale farmer who made
[00:46] SPEAKER_01: their cup possible. Justi is helping new purple tea run the top food and beverage award in BC in
[00:55] SPEAKER_01: 2018, gold medal for product of the year. Well Paul, welcome to the show, thanks for taking
[01:02] SPEAKER_01: this time today to be here for all our listeners. Thank you, Robert. Great, okay, I want you to tell
[01:08] SPEAKER_01: us a little bit more about yourself. We know you're from Vancouver, but give us the details on your
[01:12] SPEAKER_00: current business. Yeah, so my name is Paul Vane. We have a family tea business called Justi,
[01:19] SPEAKER_00: Vancouver, been operating for about, I guess, five years now in Vancouver, and we travel back and
[01:26] SPEAKER_00: enforce the Kenya working with small-scale Kenyan tea farmers there. So it's a direct trade family
[01:32] SPEAKER_00: partnership trying to create sustainable employment and lasting change on the ground in Kenya.
[01:38] SPEAKER_00: So the first partnership of its kind in the sense that it's connecting tea drinkers across Canada
[01:43] SPEAKER_00: to the farmer that made their cup of tea possible through our social media channels, through the
[01:48] SPEAKER_00: packaging. We really try to tell that transparent story of where the tea came from and that
[01:56] SPEAKER_00: whole supply chain that you went along with it. So it's really fun, it's great to share cups of
[02:01] SPEAKER_00: tea with people and the story behind it. And our purple tea is very exciting because it's
[02:06] SPEAKER_00: brand new category of tea, it's not black, it's not green, it's not brown, it's purple.
[02:10] SPEAKER_00: It grows from purple tea leaves only in Kenya and has really high end teocits just like other purple
[02:16] SPEAKER_00: superfoods, purple cabbage, blueberries, pomegranates, they all contain those really strong
[02:23] SPEAKER_00: antioxidants that are just so good for you. So that's what we're really excited about offering
[02:28] SPEAKER_00: tea drinkers around the world and especially in Vancouver and Canada.
[02:32] SPEAKER_01: Okay great, so you've been around for five years. Did you need financing to start your company?
[02:37] SPEAKER_01: And how do you currently make money in your business now?
[02:40] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's, as I mentioned, the family company. So it's been financed through the family right now.
[02:46] SPEAKER_00: We've been good strapping, trying to keep all overheads low. So we have a really small team and
[02:53] SPEAKER_00: all of our profits actually go back to Kenya. So we try to do everything on a really smart budget.
[03:00] SPEAKER_00: And we do wholesale distribution across Canada, COCS and a lot of different natural grocery
[03:06] SPEAKER_00: stores. We're not on the big box chains like the Safeways or the Sobes but we're in
[03:11] SPEAKER_00: the more the independence stores around Vancouver. So choices, nesters, market, all foods as
[03:16] SPEAKER_00: us have been fair. Famous foods is a great account of ours. And then also online obviously so you
[03:23] SPEAKER_00: can get us on justc.com or Amazon. So we do a bit of wholesale and we do a bit of direct consumer as well.
[03:28] SPEAKER_01: Okay, what is the long-term vision and what will your company look like in the future? Do you see
[03:33] SPEAKER_01: the company expanding into other areas and where beyond Vancouver BC or even Canada?
[03:40] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we are definitely have a bigger vision to match the vision of the impact that's needed in Kenya.
[03:49] SPEAKER_00: Kenya is actually the largest exporter of blockchain in the world. But not a lot of people know that
[03:54] SPEAKER_00: because there's half a million small scale farmers but they just sell their tea and it's sold
[03:59] SPEAKER_00: with it cheaply as a commodity through the Mombasa auction, through these massive factories.
[04:04] SPEAKER_00: It goes into your, the tea bags or the tea bags that's not granted as Kenya. It's a
[04:11] SPEAKER_00: bit of narrow flavor profile. It's a very fast infusion of lower quality tea. So we're trying to
[04:16] SPEAKER_00: fill the quality and try to create something that has more of a complex and nuanced flavor profile
[04:24] SPEAKER_00: in the cups or just a higher quality cup. And so we want to see an impact in Kenya that resonates
[04:30] SPEAKER_00: through at least 10% of those small scale farmers there. So our vision is to impact about 50,000 tea
[04:36] SPEAKER_00: farming families throughout Kenya, whether that's the people who tuck the tea or process the tea
[04:40] SPEAKER_00: or even the people who drop off the tea on what's called a bonaboda. That's with Swahili for
[04:46] SPEAKER_00: like a little motorcycle taxi. So we want to see that impact throughout the value chain in Kenya
[04:51] SPEAKER_00: at 50,000 families and through that we definitely need to expand outside of Vancouver. So like
[04:58] SPEAKER_00: I mentioned, we're across Canada. We have expanded into pockets of the US specifically on the
[05:03] SPEAKER_00: west coast we're really focusing on. And we actually have some great partners in Norway and the
[05:08] SPEAKER_00: Scandinavian countries in Sweden. We just sent some orders to Germany and Denmark and then a great
[05:14] SPEAKER_00: partner in New Zealand as well. So there is some global retreat bar resonating with that idea of
[05:19] SPEAKER_00: that connection back to the farmer because it is very unique in the tea industry. It's very
[05:24] SPEAKER_00: tough to find brands that are doing that. So it's real. That's why it has that kind of global
[05:30] SPEAKER_00: want and desire to be involved with the brand. Okay, so we've learned about you and we've
[05:35] SPEAKER_01: learned about your vision and your company. Let's talk about doing business in Vancouver.
[05:39] SPEAKER_01: What are the biggest benefits for you and being an entrepreneur here in Vancouver BC, I want you to
[05:43] SPEAKER_01: give us some of the good points about starting a company here, but I also want you to give us some
[05:48] SPEAKER_01: of the tough things or challenges you for our listeners so they can keep it up for them.
[05:51] SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm. Vancouver is great for the sense of locality, so supporting local brands.
[06:00] SPEAKER_00: It's great to develop that community here. They have a lot of different farmers markets.
[06:07] SPEAKER_00: Consumer shows that you can kind of test out a product if it is a product that you're selling
[06:12] SPEAKER_00: such as just tea. And so we were able to do that to start to see if there was, you know,
[06:17] SPEAKER_00: that that that need in the marketplace for a farmer direct tea and and purple teas.
[06:24] SPEAKER_00: The tricky thing what doing business Vancouver is it is
[06:27] SPEAKER_00: so from where we're right now having to find a new office to rent because they're replacing it
[06:37] SPEAKER_00: with a large office building, a condo and office space. So it's just the at an expensive
[06:42] SPEAKER_00: stadium business in so it comes with its benefits of a lot of opportunity but also just to be
[06:47] SPEAKER_01: aware of those overhead costs I go with it. Okay, if you were to start all over again and you just
[06:54] SPEAKER_01: move here to Vancouver BC, but this time you don't know anyone knowing what you know now,
[06:59] SPEAKER_01: what would you do and how would you go out starting all over again as a entrepreneur?
[07:04] SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I like that. I didn't know this part about that before but some of the some of the
[07:10] SPEAKER_00: cool tools that Vancouver offers to business startups is it's the different networking groups.
[07:18] SPEAKER_00: So there's quite a number of them and you can just do a quick search and find some of them across
[07:23] SPEAKER_00: Vancouver. We also have a lot of different seminars. We're part of the British Columbia Food Process
[07:27] SPEAKER_00: Association. So they do a lot of different seminars connecting people or just, you know,
[07:32] SPEAKER_00: learning about industry trends and things like that. So there's groups through the government
[07:38] SPEAKER_00: or private and then there's also just a lot of ways to connect because it is, you know, it just has
[07:43] SPEAKER_00: that city, it has that different infrastructure for people to get to know other people in the
[07:47] SPEAKER_00: city in some way fields whether it's, I put it on an urban wreck team right so I can get people
[07:52] SPEAKER_00: that can help you out by software but for business as well you can connect with small business groups
[07:57] SPEAKER_00: across the city at coffee shops or actually get involved with a full commitment and meet at different
[08:03] SPEAKER_00: office buildings each month or it can be more relaxed. I think getting involved with those and
[08:09] SPEAKER_00: building that community and getting to know people around you and doing those friendships and
[08:14] SPEAKER_00: potential business relationships is a great way to start off in any new city, not only that we
[08:19] SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's talk about your routine. What does the first hour look like for you when you get up
[08:24] SPEAKER_01: in the morning? Do you have a specific routine or a ritual that helps you get motivated to start
[08:29] SPEAKER_00: your game? I did. I had a routine and then I have a two and a half year old now who does not
[08:36] SPEAKER_00: like calling routines it turns out so we it's always changing it's really fun sometimes
[08:43] SPEAKER_00: we're up at six in the morning like we were this morning sometimes she'll sleep until eight so she
[08:50] SPEAKER_00: is the routine and she guides my wife and I and how we start our day but there are a couple things
[08:55] SPEAKER_00: that I try not to do and definitely follow this even before we welcome that wonderful,
[09:02] SPEAKER_00: better clear into the world which is not checking my emails until I get to the office there's no point
[09:09] SPEAKER_00: immediate email twice so if I'm going to do my emails then I'm going to read through them and
[09:13] SPEAKER_00: respond to them or delete them or forward them off as needed I don't want to have to flag an email
[09:18] SPEAKER_00: and go back and think about how to respond and have to read again it's just inefficient so I try not
[09:22] SPEAKER_00: to do a lot of emails from my phone I work much better on the computer at the office and then I like
[09:29] SPEAKER_00: to get a quick podcast in the morning to check it on the news so I don't get distracted to websites
[09:35] SPEAKER_00: to the news websites I have a couple of great podcasts I listen to the morning that I only
[09:39] SPEAKER_00: vote five minutes each I've been so nice just to be up to date with current events and then
[09:44] SPEAKER_00: a green smoothie and I'm on my bike getting on my way to work nice so right here bike to work
[09:50] SPEAKER_00: every day of the year even in the rain yeah it's it's it's great I find it a great way not only
[09:57] SPEAKER_00: just to clear my head to start the day avoid the Vancouver traffic it's not a wrong bike
[10:01] SPEAKER_00: hurts about 20 minutes but just to get that exercise you know get the blood flowing just start to
[10:07] SPEAKER_00: focus my mind for that they just they just did really tune in my mind with the body I just find
[10:12] SPEAKER_01: it really helps to start and finish today okay do you think entrepreneurs have to be weird or
[10:18] SPEAKER_00: unique in a positive way or are wired differently um I guess it depends on what sort of entrepreneur it is
[10:28] SPEAKER_00: I think that entrepreneurs have to have the guts to go for if they want to start something that's
[10:35] SPEAKER_00: that's big but there are smaller entrepreneurs that are just gonna start you know as I and a unique
[10:40] SPEAKER_00: Etsy shop right and then just go with that um and those were probably more of the unique and
[10:44] SPEAKER_00: quirky ones in some cases um so I think that it's not necessarily a way that they're that they're
[10:52] SPEAKER_00: wired I think you can learn a lot of those skills to be coming on to work I think you do also have
[10:58] SPEAKER_00: to have this innate sense of wanting to be different or go out and and persevere when when it
[11:06] SPEAKER_00: becomes challenging because it can be lonely uh with if you're just if a lot of people are doing
[11:11] SPEAKER_00: on their own at the start and you're just there with your idea and you're just trying to make it happen
[11:15] SPEAKER_00: so um I don't know if that answers your question but that's that's the best thing I can say there
[11:22] SPEAKER_01: okay what books are you reading now and why or even audio books and can you recommend any books
[11:29] SPEAKER_01: for listeners who are also aspiring entrepreneurs yeah I really do enjoy reading uh different
[11:35] SPEAKER_00: business books I didn't go to school for business I graduated from UBC and with political science and
[11:40] SPEAKER_00: focus in um developments in East Africa um so that's kind of where my passion came for just T
[11:47] SPEAKER_00: was more about the social aspect studying a social business doing that idea of trade instead of aid
[11:53] SPEAKER_00: um and so I'm trying to continue to continually teach myself about business and learn
[12:00] SPEAKER_00: of my my father's a great mentor and part of the business still um and helps guide myself and my
[12:07] SPEAKER_00: wife through it um but I do a lot of audiobooks on my own so I'm right now listening to uh
[12:13] SPEAKER_00: Brendan Birchard's high performance habits which I strongly recommend because I like
[12:18] SPEAKER_00: entrepreneurial books that have practical aspects to where you can actually implement
[12:25] SPEAKER_00: in your own life and so he goes through a lot of different ways about you know how you can
[12:30] SPEAKER_00: improve your own life skills um to become more efficient um and also in your business as well
[12:37] SPEAKER_00: so it's just that I find it's a lot of points I can record as I actually implement them in my daily
[12:42] SPEAKER_00: routine uh or at the office and then the final has that impact so that's yeah high performance
[12:47] SPEAKER_00: habits is is a book I'm reading right now it's great um and uh I don't get to read a lot of
[12:54] SPEAKER_00: physical books just because it's too busy so I mostly just listen to um when I'm doing the
[12:59] SPEAKER_00: dishes or when I'm driving in the in the car with my daughter or something so you do an audiobooks
[13:05] SPEAKER_00: audiobooks yeah pretty much I get to read the actual hard copies or soft copies when I'm um
[13:10] SPEAKER_00: on vacation that's about it and so that doesn't happen too often so it's mostly just audiobooks
[13:15] SPEAKER_01: any online or offline tools you use on a daily basis um offline I don't do too many um
[13:27] SPEAKER_00: so I can think that most of my stuff is through uh calendar which is absolutely key for even if I'm
[13:32] SPEAKER_00: booking social events just to just to be on time and to the to show up so he's calendar a lot
[13:38] SPEAKER_00: uh google drive drop box obviously um I used to I take a lot of notes if I'm still going to a meeting
[13:45] SPEAKER_00: um or a seminar then I then I prefer not to take notes on my phone or computer tablet or
[13:50] SPEAKER_00: something I take just handwritten notes just because I find I can do my attention a little bit
[13:55] SPEAKER_01: better than um yeah okay so as we all know Vancouver and BC very very beautiful place we've got
[14:03] SPEAKER_01: everything here oceans lakes rivers mountains skate skiing all that stuff how do you balance work
[14:09] SPEAKER_01: and how do you relax and not think about work and what are your favorite activities to do here in
[14:13] SPEAKER_01: BC do you ski by kayak golf hike or simply go for a drive yeah I uh as I mentioned I like to go
[14:21] SPEAKER_00: to go bike skiing um I have a trailer now so Cleo can go on the back and we can cruise around uh
[14:27] SPEAKER_00: with my wife and I so that's pretty fun uh like hiking um I'm excited to do more winter sports
[14:34] SPEAKER_00: again um with as a family whether it's snow-suing I also grew up snowboarding so so going up on
[14:41] SPEAKER_00: the mountains whenever I can um I don't do too many water sports I love sailing but it's just a bit
[14:48] SPEAKER_00: too expensive the phone has a boat and they want to have someone ride on it with them more than
[14:54] SPEAKER_00: happy to do that um and uh yeah just being out just being out at the beach or yeah out in the mountains
[15:02] SPEAKER_00: it's just awesome and you have to take advantage of it in the city and I myself don't do it enough
[15:08] SPEAKER_00: and so it's always something that I'm trying to build into that balance of work and life
[15:14] SPEAKER_01: okay if you weren't doing what you do now what would you like to do for a profession
[15:19] SPEAKER_01: if I wasn't doing what I'm doing now yeah if you weren't doing what you're doing now running
[15:23] SPEAKER_00: um I've always wanted to be a scuba diver instructor um and then open up like this scuba diving
[15:33] SPEAKER_00: retreat place somewhere in the Bahamas which sounds amazing still to me actually now I say it
[15:38] SPEAKER_00: so that's I guess what I would be doing I don't know what would happen uh it might happen when I
[15:44] SPEAKER_00: get a lot older or something but um other than that I think being a tea farmer actually would be
[15:49] SPEAKER_00: really tough that's uh after you know living on the tea farms in Kenya I could definitely see myself
[15:54] SPEAKER_00: being in Kenya and having some land and and going to with them and and yeah just being in
[16:01] SPEAKER_01: in that part of the world what kind of a job would you not like to do couldn't do it
[16:08] SPEAKER_00: um I'm not a very good typist so I wouldn't be a good person to uh uh uh stenographer I'd
[16:16] SPEAKER_00: even call I wouldn't do it that very well um and I don't yeah I need to be uh creative and work I
[16:24] SPEAKER_00: need to be able to you know try different things I it would be really tough for me to um just kind
[16:31] SPEAKER_00: of go in and punch the clock uh and and not be able to express my my creativity or my my ideas
[16:38] SPEAKER_00: around different aspects of the job so I need to be in that kind of leadership role I think
[16:44] SPEAKER_00: with any kind of role with any kind of job that I have in business what is your favorite word quote
[16:50] SPEAKER_00: or sentence that you like to use uh in business um there's actually I read a quote um on the weekend
[17:01] SPEAKER_00: from Henry Ford he said uh a business that makes nothing but money is a poor business
[17:07] SPEAKER_00: and that that really just stuck with me as I care that is I find that so true with definitely
[17:12] SPEAKER_00: with what we're doing with just tea but also with a lot of businesses and what also what uh customers
[17:17] SPEAKER_00: of businesses are requesting now if they want to see something that has more value to um to them
[17:25] SPEAKER_00: but also to whether it's to the environment or to the people and it's not just about making a
[17:32] SPEAKER_00: profit and so I think that that's yeah that really stuck with me but your least favorite word
[17:36] SPEAKER_00: or sentence you do not like to hear um I don't like the word fear very much in the sense that
[17:47] SPEAKER_00: it can debilitate people from even trying um so I think definitely there you have to have
[17:53] SPEAKER_00: fear of things that cause your own personal harm but in the sense of just trying to push yourself
[18:00] SPEAKER_00: whether it isn't business or in sport or uh in art um just getting rid of that idea of being
[18:09] SPEAKER_00: judged or um that you just don't have that ability to I think uh to to complete it or to complete
[18:16] SPEAKER_00: it to a point where people will like it that's just one thing that um I don't I guess I would like
[18:23] SPEAKER_00: super move from a lot of people's vocabulary when I when I see them not going after something that
[18:28] SPEAKER_00: I know they would really succeed at and they are they really be passionate about and they choose not
[18:32] SPEAKER_01: to just out of fear okay if you had to pick one or two words to describe yourself what would it be
[18:39] SPEAKER_00: and why I think one of the words would be positive um I try to go go into a situation um or into a
[18:52] SPEAKER_00: relationship um with a the mindset that this is going to um be a joyful experience for for both
[19:02] SPEAKER_00: of us um and that we're going to leave the experience and feel better from having that connection
[19:09] SPEAKER_00: whether it is through personal relationship or business um and then I guess the second word it
[19:15] SPEAKER_00: would be it would be um one that my dad used to call me actually a professor um and uh suggest that
[19:22] SPEAKER_00: idea of um I guess it goes along the side of positivity but um being excited excited about
[19:30] SPEAKER_00: some different things um curious wanting to try new things um yeah just that exploration of
[19:38] SPEAKER_00: life and then that bring that energy to it I think that's still stuck with me um even from when I was
[19:44] SPEAKER_00: very young and then trying to um go into the world and and test my boundaries until uh where I'm at
[19:51] SPEAKER_00: now is a 33-33 old yeah okay what keeps you up at night if anything um my daughter yeah that's about it
[20:02] SPEAKER_01: okay I want you to give us the top three things on your inspired lifeless this could be a TEDx talk
[20:07] SPEAKER_01: might might want to do you want to write a book um on yourself a bio or travel more um will
[20:14] SPEAKER_00: answer pee anything like that um inspired lifeless uh I really yeah I'd like to be able to well one of
[20:24] SPEAKER_00: the things that we we really want to do is and to bring that whole connection of tea drinker to
[20:30] SPEAKER_00: tea farmer full circle is to start doing um tea tours so it's for bringing people to Kenya on these
[20:39] SPEAKER_00: trips where they can actually um shake the hands of the farmers um that we work with make tea with
[20:45] SPEAKER_00: them get to know what it's like to be a tea farmer in Kenya the joy and the struggles of working in tea
[20:51] SPEAKER_00: so definitely being able to grow that part of or gets that point where we have the capacity to do
[20:57] SPEAKER_00: that on the ground in Kenya so I hope these these tours um for our customers whether they're
[21:02] SPEAKER_00: direct customers or business customers also customers um my sister does a lot of um where she's done
[21:10] SPEAKER_00: TEDx talks and she's just a wonderful speaker about mental illness and raising um the awareness
[21:17] SPEAKER_00: about what it's like to live um with with mental illness um or just to experience that whether
[21:24] SPEAKER_00: it's a friend or a family member so um she's doing awesome stuff for well done uh I think TEDx I
[21:30] SPEAKER_00: I would love I love being able to connect with people at that kind of platform as well um so I think
[21:35] SPEAKER_00: that would be on my list also uh getting out there and just doing more public speaking and it is
[21:40] SPEAKER_00: something that I would find challenging so I'd like being able to um set that as a goal so that I can
[21:46] SPEAKER_00: overcome some of those challenges that I would face with um the TIG NETA. Do you have any advice
[21:52] SPEAKER_01: that you may have received that you can pass on to entrepreneurs throughout British Columbia?
[21:58] SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah it's a a vice-former key partner actually in Kenya um things both as Qatar and you would
[22:07] SPEAKER_00: often say at the start on our first trip to Ken in 2012 since then we've been um in the west
[22:13] SPEAKER_00: and and whether it's in US or Canada or European countries we have this idea that things need
[22:20] SPEAKER_00: to be done fast and they need to be done on time and um to a certain quality and from working in
[22:26] SPEAKER_00: Kenya we've learned that that is not always possible and there's a saying in Kenya that's
[22:32] SPEAKER_00: pola-pole which means slowly slowly so it's about just take your time doing it right still
[22:39] SPEAKER_00: rolling with the punches um overcoming or hurdles as they come along uh because it's there's going to be
[22:46] SPEAKER_00: a number especially working with um with with with the country like Kenya and so
[22:52] SPEAKER_00: pola-pole is definitely one I think would would resonate with other entrepreneurs as well because
[22:57] SPEAKER_00: you have this idea of like let's get it done let's make money let's do it fast let's do it this way
[23:02] SPEAKER_00: when really we should sometimes take a deep breath sit back and just be like okay are we actually
[23:07] SPEAKER_00: doing this the right way is there an alternative way um does this is am I getting energy from this
[23:13] SPEAKER_00: this is something that I want to do or is this having the impact that I want and just a step back
[23:18] SPEAKER_00: and just say pola-pole story story let's let's work through this together okay pal you ready to have
[23:24] SPEAKER_01: some fun yeah always okay as you know entrepreneurs are very connected people we're always busy we're
[23:30] SPEAKER_01: always on the go and we're always online but we want to take you away from them there's a small
[23:36] SPEAKER_01: tropical island just off of TG that only has one phone booth there there is no internet this place
[23:41] SPEAKER_01: does exist we're going to drop you off there you won't have a computer smart phone or tablet
[23:46] SPEAKER_01: you can use the phone booth located there anytime to call the boat we'll come pick you up how long
[23:52] SPEAKER_01: would you last before you made that call and what would you do while you were there um I would last
[24:02] SPEAKER_00: I you know if I had my friends and family there I could last a long time I love I love the
[24:08] SPEAKER_00: island I love being in a warm spot um but if I don't have anyone there I'm calling pretty much
[24:15] SPEAKER_00: right away so I get homes they got responsibilities um if that's out of the question though and everyone's
[24:20] SPEAKER_00: taking care of um I'm a sucker still for the show survivor it's on like season 37 and it's
[24:29] SPEAKER_00: it's amazing and I know everyone's going rapidly to say that but it's still a great reality TG show
[24:36] SPEAKER_00: so I would probably try to do some other things that they do on that show and just that's the basic
[24:41] SPEAKER_00: survivor skills try to start a fire on my own build some sort of well it's gonna be a disaster
[24:46] SPEAKER_00: of a shelter but something there so I can stay for a bit longer um try to do some fishing uh
[24:53] SPEAKER_00: yeah so if I can do all if if everything's taken care of at home and the business is going all right
[24:58] SPEAKER_00: then I'll give myself uh probably a week maybe 10 days 10 days okay and then uh you wouldn't
[25:07] SPEAKER_01: try and start a stupid ivy shop there if you if you are populated yeah like what I would try to go
[25:14] SPEAKER_00: I definitely try to go snorkeling um and uh and and yes see what kind of adventures we can be like
[25:21] SPEAKER_00: I like exploring I kind of stuff so I think that would take up a fair bit of my time and if I can
[25:27] SPEAKER_00: you know if I can feed myself and I can stay warm then I'm all for it great okay Paul we're
[25:33] SPEAKER_01: gonna wrap things up how can our listeners get hold of you and is there anything you'd like to add
[25:37] SPEAKER_00: before he leaves today people you gotta hold on me uh through my email paul paul at justhe.com
[25:44] SPEAKER_00: it's j-u-s-t-e-a.com um w-w-out juste.com as well um and then anything I want to add
[25:55] SPEAKER_00: uh just we had us keep on going you know like it gets really tough if you are doing a small
[26:01] SPEAKER_00: business feel free to reach out to me if you're in the food industry especially like I'm i'm an
[26:06] SPEAKER_00: open book i'm happy to provide resources or or knowledge um in that regard because it can
[26:14] SPEAKER_00: it can get really uh really challenging and then there are times when I wished I had a bit in
[26:19] SPEAKER_00: one formation from people in that same industry that had the experience really of going through
[26:23] SPEAKER_00: different aspects of it so uh yeah feel free to connect um thanks for listening and yeah thanks
[26:28] SPEAKER_01: well it's great it's a challenge good okay well thank you for coming on the show I've learned a lot
[26:33] SPEAKER_01: about you and I'm sure our listeners have as well right on cheers guys okay we'll see you next time
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