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Patricia (Tish) Conlin

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Patricia Conlin

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Patricia (Tish) Conlin heads up the Global Consulting Group Inc. (GCG), a leading talent solutions company with over 25 years finding...

Key takeaways

  • Entrepreneurs need higher risk tolerance, stamina, and a burning desire to create, but not everyone is wired to be an entrepreneur and that's okay.
  • Focus deeply on one task at a time in 60-90 minute chunks rather than multitasking to accomplish more in less time and avoid working excessive hours.
  • Maintain high energy levels through healthy habits, exercise, and recharging breaks because without good health you waste time and can't perform at your best.
  • Outsource tasks that aren't your core strengths and build a complementary team so you can focus on the high-priority areas that grow your business.
  • Don't focus obsessively on the final result or deadline—focus on the journey, enjoy the process, learn from failures, and keep moving forward with your vision.

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[00:00] SPEAKER_01: It's Toronto's podcast on the Canada's podcast network.
[00:04] Speaker UNKNOWN: [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪
[00:19] SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, I'm Phil Bliss, a business visionary,
[00:22] SPEAKER_00: and welcome to Toronto's Podcasts.
[00:24] SPEAKER_00: Part of the Canada's podcast network,
[00:26] SPEAKER_00: your source of the great insights
[00:28] SPEAKER_00: from entrepreneurs across Canada.
[00:31] SPEAKER_00: Today I'd like to introduce you to Patricia Tish-Condlin.
[00:36] SPEAKER_00: She heads up the Global Consulting Group,
[00:39] SPEAKER_00: a leading talent solutions company
[00:40] SPEAKER_00: with about 25 years finding leaders for our clients
[00:44] SPEAKER_00: in IT, engineering, real estate, finance, and healthcare companies.
[00:49] SPEAKER_00: G.C.G. has entered in solutions
[00:52] SPEAKER_00: for talent acquisition, executive coaching, wellness,
[00:56] SPEAKER_00: and transition, along with retirement transition solutions.
[01:00] SPEAKER_00: As well as building G.C.G. Tish's passionate about wellness.
[01:05] SPEAKER_00: As a registered holistic nutritionist, certified emotional
[01:08] SPEAKER_00: and social intelligence trainer and Black Belt martial artist,
[01:13] SPEAKER_00: Tish has seen the difference coach he makes
[01:16] SPEAKER_00: to improve lives and performance.
[01:19] SPEAKER_00: Tish is a well-known speaker,
[01:21] SPEAKER_00: and her first book, The ABCs of Food,
[01:23] SPEAKER_00: Boost Your Energy, Confidence and Success,
[01:26] SPEAKER_00: is now available, and she's writing a second book
[01:28] SPEAKER_00: on building inner resilience.
[01:32] SPEAKER_00: So Tish, I've really been looking forward to this.
[01:35] SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Canada's Podcasts.
[01:38] SPEAKER_00: Tell us a little bit more about yourself,
[01:40] SPEAKER_00: you know, way from, give us the details
[01:42] SPEAKER_00: on your current business, and you know,
[01:45] SPEAKER_00: things are important to you.
[01:47] SPEAKER_01: Wow, well, thanks very much, Phil.
[01:49] SPEAKER_01: I'm absolutely thrilled to be here,
[01:51] SPEAKER_01: and I must say, I really enjoy listening
[01:53] SPEAKER_01: to this podcast, Siri.
[01:54] SPEAKER_01: It's a great platform for budding entrepreneurs
[01:57] SPEAKER_01: and existing entrepreneurs.
[01:59] SPEAKER_01: So thank you for all your hard work to create.
[02:01] SPEAKER_01: This great content.
[02:02] SPEAKER_01: It's fantastic.
[02:04] SPEAKER_01: But yes, my, my journey is, is unique as they all are.
[02:09] SPEAKER_01: I've always been a little bit of an entrepreneur growing up.
[02:11] SPEAKER_01: I always had my own small business,
[02:14] SPEAKER_01: whether it was selling crafts or garage selling, et cetera.
[02:18] SPEAKER_01: I had multiple interests.
[02:19] SPEAKER_01: I was passionate about food and health.
[02:21] SPEAKER_01: I had a scholarship to be a food scientist, actually.
[02:24] SPEAKER_01: But my other passion of culture and language
[02:28] SPEAKER_01: took over in university.
[02:29] SPEAKER_01: I ended up doing my third year abroad in Germany
[02:31] SPEAKER_01: and ended up with an arts degree.
[02:34] SPEAKER_01: When I graduated back in the 90s,
[02:37] SPEAKER_01: it was a bit of a recession,
[02:38] SPEAKER_01: and it was hard to find a job.
[02:41] SPEAKER_01: I had a short contract working for the Quebec government.
[02:45] SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, that experience,
[02:47] SPEAKER_01: you know, working in a slower pace,
[02:49] SPEAKER_01: a lot of disengagement and apathy in the office.
[02:55] SPEAKER_01: And it was really hard to keep the motivation up.
[02:58] SPEAKER_01: My boss laughed after one week.
[03:00] SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know what to do.
[03:01] SPEAKER_01: So I created my own job.
[03:03] SPEAKER_01: And I realized I am much more of an entrepreneur
[03:04] SPEAKER_01: suited at faster pace.
[03:07] SPEAKER_01: I promptly looked for a role in Toronto,
[03:10] SPEAKER_01: joined an executive search firm.
[03:12] SPEAKER_01: And within a year, unfortunately, they went bankrupt.
[03:14] SPEAKER_01: So one year at a university,
[03:16] SPEAKER_01: I started global consulting group.
[03:17] SPEAKER_01: And with my mother and father's wonderful support
[03:20] SPEAKER_01: in one of the bedrooms converted,
[03:23] SPEAKER_01: I started the company and never looked back.
[03:25] SPEAKER_01: And so I had a lot of fun building it
[03:28] SPEAKER_01: and was able to use all my languages.
[03:30] SPEAKER_01: I have three, although it's hard to keep them up.
[03:33] SPEAKER_01: And got some great clients,
[03:35] SPEAKER_01: some great adventures along the way,
[03:37] SPEAKER_01: built my team and, you know,
[03:40] SPEAKER_01: diversified our product line in sectors over the years.
[03:43] SPEAKER_01: So it's been a great ride.
[03:44] SPEAKER_00: I spent a lot of time in recruitment
[03:46] SPEAKER_00: in my early career as well.
[03:48] SPEAKER_00: We probably were competing with each other.
[03:50] SPEAKER_00: But that's another story.
[03:52] SPEAKER_01: Yes.
[03:53] SPEAKER_00: So you kind of did this.
[03:55] SPEAKER_00: But, you know, what was the stock moment?
[03:58] SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm always interested.
[04:00] SPEAKER_00: You kind of covered it a little bit.
[04:02] SPEAKER_00: What was the bottom of the stock moment when you decided
[04:04] SPEAKER_00: I got to become an entrepreneur?
[04:07] SPEAKER_01: Well, it always has been in me.
[04:09] SPEAKER_01: I realized not everyone is wired to be an entrepreneur
[04:13] SPEAKER_01: and that is okay.
[04:14] SPEAKER_01: But for me, the freedom and flexibility,
[04:17] SPEAKER_01: the creativity and the pace always drove me.
[04:20] SPEAKER_01: So really, my whole life has been working as an entrepreneur.
[04:24] SPEAKER_01: When the company went bankrupt,
[04:26] SPEAKER_01: I remember back then I had recipe cards.
[04:28] SPEAKER_01: So I'd been building my client base,
[04:30] SPEAKER_01: writing them down diligently.
[04:31] SPEAKER_01: I took them home and I told my parents.
[04:33] SPEAKER_01: It was not even a second thought.
[04:35] SPEAKER_01: I'm starting my company tomorrow.
[04:37] SPEAKER_01: I'm incorporating.
[04:38] SPEAKER_01: I'm going all out.
[04:39] SPEAKER_01: This is going to be it.
[04:40] SPEAKER_01: First, they were a bit.
[04:41] SPEAKER_01: They looked at me like, are you sure?
[04:42] SPEAKER_01: And then they knew me well enough to go, okay, let's go for it.
[04:45] SPEAKER_01: So I never really looked back.
[04:48] SPEAKER_01: And along the way, I've diversified my service offerings.
[04:51] SPEAKER_01: I've done an innovate thing.
[04:52] SPEAKER_01: We've started an RPO program,
[04:53] SPEAKER_01: which is kind of a outsource recruitment.
[04:56] SPEAKER_01: It's going fabulously.
[04:58] SPEAKER_01: And a number of our other services coaching and wellness
[05:01] SPEAKER_01: have happened organically within our client base,
[05:04] SPEAKER_01: based on need and relationships we've built.
[05:07] SPEAKER_00: So how do you maintain your focus?
[05:09] SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, my experience of entrepreneurs are so busy.
[05:14] SPEAKER_00: How do you kind of separate being busy from, you know,
[05:18] SPEAKER_00: maintaining the focus that you need to succeed?
[05:21] SPEAKER_01: It's a great question, Phil.
[05:23] SPEAKER_01: And something I've struggled with over the years,
[05:25] SPEAKER_01: also being a mother of two very active young boys
[05:28] SPEAKER_01: and some of the other challenges in life.
[05:31] SPEAKER_01: But I think having developed this ability to focus
[05:35] SPEAKER_01: as a martial arts, I artist over the years.
[05:37] SPEAKER_01: I mean, this intense focus,
[05:38] SPEAKER_01: because people tell me it's one of those things about me.
[05:41] SPEAKER_01: I'm able to get a lot done quickly
[05:43] SPEAKER_01: and that real narrow focus.
[05:46] SPEAKER_01: I think learning how to concentrate deeply on tasks
[05:49] SPEAKER_01: and really improve output.
[05:51] SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people now are juggling multiple tasks at once.
[05:55] SPEAKER_01: They say now multitasking is actually not as effective
[05:58] SPEAKER_01: as working on one task at a time.
[06:01] SPEAKER_01: So I try to chunk my work into a 60 or 90-minute segment
[06:04] SPEAKER_01: where I'm doing, for example, all business development.
[06:06] SPEAKER_01: I'm responding only to emails.
[06:08] SPEAKER_01: And I'm not going back and forth between tasks.
[06:10] SPEAKER_01: And I finally get a lot more done that way.
[06:13] SPEAKER_01: And I don't have to work as long hours.
[06:15] SPEAKER_01: So for me, that really works well.
[06:17] SPEAKER_00: How did you get past that, you know,
[06:19] SPEAKER_00: that what I tell the entrepreneurial glass ceiling,
[06:22] SPEAKER_00: where you end up spending 70 hours a week working?
[06:26] SPEAKER_00: That's the execution side of it.
[06:28] SPEAKER_00: You said you like to have some time
[06:30] SPEAKER_00: and you've got your kids and everything else.
[06:33] SPEAKER_00: How did you manage to do that?
[06:34] SPEAKER_00: Because it's a real problem for entrepreneurs
[06:37] SPEAKER_00: that I find anyway.
[06:39] SPEAKER_01: You're right.
[06:40] SPEAKER_01: And it's something, I mean, I do coaching as well.
[06:42] SPEAKER_01: And I think at Teach People, number one,
[06:45] SPEAKER_01: is you want to maintain high energy levels.
[06:47] SPEAKER_01: If you're not healthy and you don't have good habits,
[06:51] SPEAKER_01: you end up wasting a lot more time.
[06:53] SPEAKER_01: So that's one thing.
[06:54] SPEAKER_01: I make sure I have those healthy times in between work
[06:58] SPEAKER_01: where I'm recharging my battery
[07:00] SPEAKER_01: so that I don't waste time.
[07:02] SPEAKER_01: I'm also prioritizing.
[07:03] SPEAKER_01: A lot of stuff just doesn't need to get done right away.
[07:07] SPEAKER_01: So you work on the things that, you know,
[07:09] SPEAKER_01: that are a high priority for your business.
[07:12] SPEAKER_01: Client, client needs are always first.
[07:14] SPEAKER_01: You want to have excellent client relationships.
[07:16] SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of things you can outsource too.
[07:18] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've learned to outsource
[07:20] SPEAKER_01: and the costs relative to if you did them yourself.
[07:24] SPEAKER_01: I think it's, there's a value to outsourcing where I needed.
[07:26] SPEAKER_01: So I built a good team of people
[07:28] SPEAKER_01: who can do the things that are complementary to me.
[07:31] SPEAKER_01: So I can focus on the core areas that we need to grow the business.
[07:35] SPEAKER_01: That's helped me save time as well.
[07:37] SPEAKER_01: But it is a problem.
[07:38] SPEAKER_01: And even now I'm not going to, I'm not going to, you know,
[07:41] SPEAKER_01: the honestly, there are some times that I'm working those long hours.
[07:44] SPEAKER_01: But other times I balance it back again.
[07:47] SPEAKER_01: So I make sure I have a outlet every day.
[07:49] SPEAKER_01: Like usually a couple of times a week.
[07:51] SPEAKER_01: I swim on my lunch hours, a couple of times a week in the morning.
[07:54] SPEAKER_01: I do a fitness or yoga class.
[07:56] SPEAKER_01: So try to keep it really balanced.
[07:58] SPEAKER_01: And I tend to get more done that way.
[07:59] SPEAKER_01: Works for me anyways.
[08:02] SPEAKER_00: Let's move to Toronto, which is what this is all about.
[08:06] SPEAKER_00: What are the biggest benefits for you
[08:07] SPEAKER_00: for being an entrepreneur in Toronto?
[08:10] SPEAKER_00: You know, why are you here?
[08:11] SPEAKER_00: Why not somewhere else?
[08:13] SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I'm an absolute fan of Toronto.
[08:16] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love Toronto.
[08:18] SPEAKER_01: I grew up, I was born in Sudbury on Terrile,
[08:20] SPEAKER_01: but moved to North TTA when I was still very young.
[08:24] SPEAKER_01: My father was a mechanical engineer and traveled here.
[08:28] SPEAKER_01: And, you know, the opportunities were here.
[08:29] SPEAKER_01: So I have a great friend base here,
[08:32] SPEAKER_01: although now friends, you know, they go across Canada
[08:35] SPEAKER_01: and we keep in touch.
[08:35] SPEAKER_01: But excellent associations for some of our key sectors
[08:39] SPEAKER_01: in IT and engineering, real estate and the healthcare sector.
[08:45] SPEAKER_01: You know, I do speaking engagements here.
[08:47] SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's just even the Toronto Film Festival.
[08:50] SPEAKER_01: The arts here are phenomenal.
[08:51] SPEAKER_01: I like to support that.
[08:52] SPEAKER_01: Toronto is a great city.
[08:54] SPEAKER_01: So I feel really lucky to be a, have a business here.
[08:58] SPEAKER_01: And I find I was very fortunate to be able to purchase a house
[09:03] SPEAKER_01: on the main street of Marcom and converted into a commercial property.
[09:08] SPEAKER_01: So that'll, that has been a great value ad having that piece of real estate
[09:11] SPEAKER_01: under my belt as a business owner too.
[09:15] SPEAKER_00: Is there a place in Toronto or close to the city,
[09:18] SPEAKER_00: which is where you live?
[09:19] SPEAKER_00: That you'd like to reach out, you know, get inspired?
[09:23] SPEAKER_01: Yes.
[09:24] SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, I mean, I was forward my father
[09:27] SPEAKER_01: passed away, unfortunately, a few years ago.
[09:29] SPEAKER_01: A wonderful man and a really great carpenter as well as an engineer.
[09:33] SPEAKER_01: So I inherited the cottage.
[09:36] SPEAKER_01: So I love to go up north and putter away just like he did and work on things
[09:39] SPEAKER_01: with my kids and partner.
[09:41] SPEAKER_01: And also I like to run in, I like to get into the forest.
[09:46] SPEAKER_01: I mean, Durham, I live in actually in Durham, which is just outside.
[09:50] SPEAKER_01: So I spend time in the forest there and also in my community by the lake.
[09:54] SPEAKER_01: And I'm not an avid gardener, but I'm a budding gardener.
[09:59] SPEAKER_01: So learning as I go every year, we expand our vegetable garden.
[10:02] SPEAKER_01: So I like to spend time in the garden as well.
[10:04] SPEAKER_01: I find that really a great recharge.
[10:07] SPEAKER_00: What is the first hour of your day look like?
[10:10] SPEAKER_00: You know, when is it, when is that first hour?
[10:13] SPEAKER_00: Do you have a routine?
[10:14] SPEAKER_00: I'm always interested to find out what people's routines are.
[10:17] SPEAKER_01: Yes.
[10:18] SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, I mean, because I have two very active boys,
[10:22] SPEAKER_01: 12 and 11, first hour is kind of getting up, hustling up breakfast, feeding the cats,
[10:29] SPEAKER_01: you know, getting lunches going.
[10:30] SPEAKER_01: I must confess that I am, although I'm extremely high energy people say,
[10:35] SPEAKER_01: I'm not an early riser.
[10:36] SPEAKER_01: It's not natural for me.
[10:38] SPEAKER_01: So usually my youngest son has to prod me to get up.
[10:41] SPEAKER_01: Mommy, get up, get up.
[10:43] SPEAKER_01: So he's the early riser.
[10:45] SPEAKER_01: Right from there, it's full steam ahead.
[10:47] SPEAKER_01: In the mornings, I usually talk to my team, you know, get our focus for the day.
[10:50] SPEAKER_01: What are our priorities?
[10:52] SPEAKER_01: Usually within the first hour that happens.
[10:54] SPEAKER_01: If I'm driving to work, then I'm listening to a great podcast or one of my books,
[11:00] SPEAKER_01: my audio books, which I love to do.
[11:03] SPEAKER_01: If I'm working from home, which I do, then I often start my day with a fitness class
[11:07] SPEAKER_01: that gets my energy going and exercises so good for, you know, everything,
[11:13] SPEAKER_01: just confidence, et cetera.
[11:14] SPEAKER_01: So that's usually my first hour.
[11:15] SPEAKER_01: And then it's non-stop after that.
[11:17] SPEAKER_01: Literally a flying, everything to break in.
[11:21] SPEAKER_00: You know, you kind of talked about this, you know, being on to be does being wired differently.
[11:27] SPEAKER_00: Now, you're being in recruitment.
[11:28] SPEAKER_00: You see a lot of people, any insights on how we wired differently.
[11:34] SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I wanted to say because a number of years ago, I switched,
[11:38] SPEAKER_01: you know, I built other divisions within my company and I didn't do that for no reason.
[11:42] SPEAKER_01: And I have a degree, but I went back to school to become a registered holistic nutritionist
[11:47] SPEAKER_01: and got certified as a emotion television strainer because there was so much happening
[11:52] SPEAKER_01: not only in my life, but with people coming to me who are seeking jobs
[11:56] SPEAKER_01: who were breaking down, who were stressed out, who are facing chronic illness.
[12:00] SPEAKER_01: So I switched gears to become more diversified and also started coaching.
[12:06] SPEAKER_01: And when I meet people who are building their own company,
[12:09] SPEAKER_01: some people are just, they're not suited for being an entrepreneur and they realize that very quickly.
[12:15] SPEAKER_01: But other people are and there's not one way or the other.
[12:18] SPEAKER_01: So I'm just saying not everyone is built to be an entrepreneur.
[12:21] SPEAKER_01: But for me, it was a driving need to be an entrepreneur.
[12:25] SPEAKER_01: I've always been driven and passionate.
[12:27] SPEAKER_01: And I think entrepreneurs have a higher risk tolerance for sure.
[12:31] SPEAKER_01: We have a higher need for self-actualization to put our own stamp on things.
[12:36] SPEAKER_01: And I think we like to control the process and be in charge.
[12:40] SPEAKER_01: I think a little bit more.
[12:41] SPEAKER_01: Entrepreneurs can accept the risk.
[12:45] SPEAKER_01: Maybe the failure. Maybe have a bit more stamina.
[12:47] SPEAKER_01: And I think sometimes just have that burning desire to create things.
[12:51] SPEAKER_00: I think resilience is a requirement for sure.
[12:55] SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
[12:56] SPEAKER_01: But I haven't regretted a moment of it through all the ups and downs.
[13:00] SPEAKER_01: And miss the failures and successes.
[13:03] SPEAKER_01: It's been a great, great journey for me.
[13:05] SPEAKER_01: I love it every second of it.
[13:07] SPEAKER_00: So here's the question.
[13:08] SPEAKER_00: What books are you reading or audio books?
[13:11] SPEAKER_00: Because you said you like to listen to audio books.
[13:13] SPEAKER_00: And what would you recommend it?
[13:15] SPEAKER_00: So does currently amongst those.
[13:18] SPEAKER_01: So for me, I am a voracious reader like a lot of people.
[13:23] SPEAKER_01: I mean, voracious maybe, but I love reading.
[13:26] SPEAKER_01: It goes in spits and starts.
[13:27] SPEAKER_01: But recently I've read, I read, listened to 12 rules for life by Jordan Peters.
[13:31] SPEAKER_01: And I thought it was an excellent book.
[13:34] SPEAKER_01: Daring greatly, Renee Brown, was good, really good.
[13:39] SPEAKER_01: And mastery, Robert Green is a great book to listen to.
[13:42] SPEAKER_01: If you want to become an entrepreneur, you want to build something.
[13:45] SPEAKER_01: I thought it's a great book.
[13:46] SPEAKER_01: Classic.
[13:47] SPEAKER_01: I listened to the alchemist, Paulo Cuello.
[13:50] SPEAKER_01: I love books on personal transformation.
[13:52] SPEAKER_01: And I'm also interested in fantasy and sci-fi.
[13:56] SPEAKER_01: When I'm not reading, I'd love to watch Game of Thrones.
[13:58] SPEAKER_01: I'm a big fan of that series.
[14:01] SPEAKER_01: Wow, that last show was excellent.
[14:04] SPEAKER_01: So I'm very diverse in my reading.
[14:06] SPEAKER_01: And obviously, garden books, nutrition books, health books.
[14:09] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have a really wide range of books that I'm interested in.
[14:13] SPEAKER_01: But for business leaders, I think those ones I recommend are good.
[14:17] SPEAKER_01: And I also like Dan Goldman, who coined the term emotional intelligence.
[14:21] SPEAKER_01: He wrote a great book on focusing, which is good for entrepreneurs,
[14:25] SPEAKER_01: focus getting in the zone.
[14:26] SPEAKER_01: And when I'm doing training, I often recommend that book to people.
[14:30] SPEAKER_00: If you weren't doing what you do now, what would you like to do for a profession?
[14:35] SPEAKER_01: Well, that's another great question.
[14:38] SPEAKER_01: And I mean, I've always been good in sales and fell into recruitment and never looked back.
[14:42] SPEAKER_01: And I had great adventures.
[14:44] SPEAKER_01: But I think my passion over the last decade is turned, as I mentioned to speaking, training and coaching.
[14:50] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I went through a decade where I lost my mother, my father, I even lost my husband.
[14:57] SPEAKER_01: Chronic illness and also while raising two children.
[15:01] SPEAKER_01: And so I realize there's a lot of ways we can prevent things and help people to lean healthier and happier lives.
[15:08] SPEAKER_01: So I really love to get more involved in speaking and podcasting.
[15:12] SPEAKER_01: So it's something that I love to do, so I'd love to get more involved in that too.
[15:17] SPEAKER_00: So the opposite, what kind of job wouldn't you like to do?
[15:21] SPEAKER_01: Oh, geez. There's a lot of them.
[15:23] SPEAKER_01: I know my first experience out there, I like meaning, purpose.
[15:30] SPEAKER_01: And I'm extremely motivated and driven.
[15:32] SPEAKER_01: Any job I ever had is a temp.
[15:34] SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, I get it done. What's next?
[15:37] SPEAKER_01: I'm master this. What's next?
[15:38] SPEAKER_01: So I love to learn.
[15:40] SPEAKER_01: I love to be valuable and useful.
[15:42] SPEAKER_01: So I need a job where I'm helping something, you know, something actually for a better cause or better reason.
[15:49] SPEAKER_01: So I mean, there's a lot of jobs that just don't suit me.
[15:53] SPEAKER_01: I know customer service as well would be one where I probably would end up saying something that I'm freaking.
[16:00] SPEAKER_00: I've been told that quite candidly.
[16:04] SPEAKER_01: But I do admire. I'm always nice to people who call me even, you know, anyone.
[16:08] SPEAKER_01: Because I know that's tough.
[16:10] SPEAKER_00: So in business, you know, what's your favorite word?
[16:13] SPEAKER_00: What do you like your favorite expression?
[16:17] SPEAKER_01: Well, I have a lot of historical figures who I really admire.
[16:23] SPEAKER_01: People like Leonardo da Vinci ahead of their time, Benjamin Franklin.
[16:26] SPEAKER_01: And of course, having studied German literature, Guta.
[16:29] SPEAKER_01: And there's expression that I love that Guta says, I mean, he's an amazing man.
[16:34] SPEAKER_01: At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you.
[16:39] SPEAKER_01: So I think when you really want something and you go all in and you focus and you believe in it,
[16:44] SPEAKER_01: I think you can do amazing things. So I think that's a great quote for sure.
[16:48] SPEAKER_00: How would you describe yourself in a couple of words?
[16:52] SPEAKER_01: I am passionate, driven, focused and funny.
[16:56] SPEAKER_01: I've been told I'm especially if I've had a glass of wine.
[17:00] SPEAKER_01: Life is too important to take seriously.
[17:03] SPEAKER_01: I always think.
[17:05] SPEAKER_00: Well, I live in wine country.
[17:07] SPEAKER_01: I love good food and good wine.
[17:10] SPEAKER_01: Life is good.
[17:13] SPEAKER_00: So what keeps you up at night?
[17:14] SPEAKER_00: If anything, maybe it doesn't keep you up at night.
[17:16] SPEAKER_01: Well, no, actually, I mean, as a registered holistic nutritionist as well,
[17:20] SPEAKER_01: I've struggled with good sleep.
[17:22] SPEAKER_01: And so when I'm coaching people, I always recommend magnesium.
[17:25] SPEAKER_01: I have to give that nugget to people out there, entrepreneurs, because magnesium is a vital mineral.
[17:31] SPEAKER_01: So important for our health.
[17:32] SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people are deficient and it helps to sleep better.
[17:35] SPEAKER_01: So I have struggled with sleep because I am.
[17:38] SPEAKER_01: I have a very active mind.
[17:40] SPEAKER_01: I juggle multiple businesses.
[17:41] SPEAKER_01: So, but the thing that has kept me up the most in my life as a, you know,
[17:47] SPEAKER_01: is a woman as well as conflict is that people conflict and trying to solve it and trying to, you know, create harmony.
[17:53] SPEAKER_01: And sometimes you can't, sometimes you can't.
[17:56] SPEAKER_01: But I have learned in my career that particularly with clients and I have great clients now.
[18:01] SPEAKER_01: But if it's not working, sometimes it's best to fire them, you know.
[18:05] SPEAKER_01: And just go.
[18:05] SPEAKER_01: It's one of the benefits of being an entrepreneur.
[18:08] SPEAKER_00: Yes.
[18:08] SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I've been blessed with wonderful friends, family, relationships.
[18:12] SPEAKER_01: But usually the people side had to, had to help people become their best.
[18:17] SPEAKER_01: That's what keeps me up.
[18:18] SPEAKER_00: One of the top three things on your what we've inspired lifeless.
[18:24] SPEAKER_01: What do you mean things I want to do?
[18:26] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[18:27] SPEAKER_01: Well, I really want to speak more.
[18:29] SPEAKER_01: It's in me.
[18:30] SPEAKER_01: I've been told I'm decent at it.
[18:32] SPEAKER_01: So I'm building my speaking career.
[18:34] SPEAKER_01: I've done a lot of speaking within my own sector in the recruitment sector.
[18:38] SPEAKER_01: Been a keynote.
[18:40] SPEAKER_01: And then just in the last year or two, I'm breaking into other verticals.
[18:44] SPEAKER_01: Okay.
[18:44] SPEAKER_01: Booked for different associations, health, whether it's sales, human resources, or leadership.
[18:51] SPEAKER_01: So platforms and summits.
[18:53] SPEAKER_01: So I'm really excited about that.
[18:55] SPEAKER_01: And I am, you know, I want to be a great mother.
[18:57] SPEAKER_01: That's really important to me as much as my business building to responsible.
[19:01] SPEAKER_01: Resilient boys.
[19:03] SPEAKER_01: That's a, you know, it's important.
[19:04] SPEAKER_01: They're both competitive soccer players.
[19:06] SPEAKER_01: So like me, I was.
[19:07] SPEAKER_01: Okay.
[19:08] SPEAKER_01: That's a big project.
[19:10] SPEAKER_01: And then just, I do want to finish my next book.
[19:13] SPEAKER_01: So I've started it.
[19:14] SPEAKER_01: A book on resilience.
[19:16] SPEAKER_01: I've tentatively called it a thrive mind or thrive.
[19:18] SPEAKER_01: Real life and decided yet.
[19:20] SPEAKER_01: But I'm hoping to have that completed by next year.
[19:23] SPEAKER_00: If you have any advice that you that you've received that made a difference that you want to pass on to other entrepreneurs.
[19:30] SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, this is, this is all about a community of entrepreneurs listening to each other and learning from each other.
[19:38] SPEAKER_00: What would that jam be?
[19:40] SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, it's, it's an amazing question.
[19:43] SPEAKER_01: And not having thought about it too much.
[19:46] SPEAKER_01: I, I mean, there's so much I could say, but really it's important to know yourself.
[19:50] SPEAKER_01: Know your strengths, know your weaknesses.
[19:53] SPEAKER_01: As an entrepreneur, you're going to fail.
[19:55] SPEAKER_01: You're going to, you're going to make mistakes, accept that.
[19:57] SPEAKER_01: Learn from it.
[19:58] SPEAKER_01: Don't beat yourself up.
[20:00] SPEAKER_01: And if you have a vision and you have a passion for something, keep going.
[20:04] SPEAKER_01: Keep going.
[20:05] SPEAKER_01: You're going to learn.
[20:06] SPEAKER_01: And don't focus so much on the final result.
[20:09] SPEAKER_01: You must be successful by this date.
[20:11] SPEAKER_01: Focus on the journey and process improvement each step of the way.
[20:14] SPEAKER_01: And enjoy the journey.
[20:16] SPEAKER_01: Have fun with it.
[20:17] SPEAKER_01: And try to keep it as balanced as possible because people do burn out.
[20:20] SPEAKER_01: So, you know, as a health coach, I want to make sure that that is, is received.
[20:24] SPEAKER_01: There was a great, I listened to someone and I can't remember who at this point,
[20:29] SPEAKER_01: but they talked about the importance of paying attention out there.
[20:33] SPEAKER_01: So you never know what's going to happen if you're paying attention.
[20:36] SPEAKER_01: Great things can happen and constantly show wonder and on life.
[20:40] SPEAKER_01: You know, be amazed, be thrilled with things, show excitement, and then tell others.
[20:44] SPEAKER_01: So in your product messaging and your service, get that excitement and energy into what you do.
[20:50] SPEAKER_01: And good things will happen.
[20:52] SPEAKER_00: So here's this tropical island question, which you've listened, you might might have heard it.
[20:57] SPEAKER_00: Yes.
[20:57] SPEAKER_00: With a small tropical island, just off the EG, one phone booth, no internet.
[21:03] SPEAKER_00: We drop you off there.
[21:05] SPEAKER_00: Is there any food?
[21:06] SPEAKER_01: That's the one thing no one needs to answer that.
[21:09] SPEAKER_00: Well, there's a big sea.
[21:11] SPEAKER_00: So you can.
[21:12] SPEAKER_00: Oh, my fish.
[21:13] SPEAKER_00: You don't have a computer.
[21:15] SPEAKER_00: You don't have a smartphone or anything like that.
[21:16] SPEAKER_00: She's.
[21:17] SPEAKER_00: You can't you can use a phone booth located there anytime to call the boat back.
[21:23] SPEAKER_00: How long would you last?
[21:25] SPEAKER_01: Well, I was going to ask.
[21:26] SPEAKER_01: I mean, if there's no food and water.
[21:29] SPEAKER_00: There's food and water if you're prepared to work in it.
[21:34] SPEAKER_01: Okay.
[21:35] SPEAKER_01: And no books either.
[21:36] SPEAKER_01: I can't even bring my books.
[21:37] SPEAKER_01: No, no.
[21:38] SPEAKER_01: If there's not a hammock either, not even a nice hammock, I'm not sure how long I'd last.
[21:44] SPEAKER_01: Because even though I'm a survivor fan, I, you know, I watch it with the family.
[21:47] SPEAKER_01: And I as a martial artist and I'm a pretty tough woman.
[21:51] SPEAKER_01: I think I could stick it out.
[21:53] SPEAKER_01: But at least they have a company and rice and you're competing for a million dollars.
[21:57] SPEAKER_01: If it's just me and an island, I think I'd pick up that phone.
[22:01] SPEAKER_01: I might sit by the ocean for a day.
[22:04] SPEAKER_01: I do like, I do like my own solitude because I rarely get it.
[22:08] SPEAKER_01: So just watching the awe of the ocean.
[22:11] SPEAKER_01: But maybe I'd call the next day because I've got a lot of stuff to do.
[22:14] SPEAKER_00: It might be three or four days for me.
[22:18] SPEAKER_00: I'm a bit like that.
[22:19] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not long.
[22:20] SPEAKER_01: That's for sure.
[22:21] SPEAKER_01: If I had books, I could stay a week.
[22:23] SPEAKER_00: It's a great question because we get completely different answers.
[22:26] SPEAKER_00: Yes, no, it's fun.
[22:27] SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
[22:28] SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
[22:29] SPEAKER_00: How can our listeners get a hold of you?
[22:31] SPEAKER_00: Is there anything you'd like to add?
[22:33] SPEAKER_00: I've missed before we kind of leave today.
[22:37] SPEAKER_01: Yes, well, for my coaching business, I have my speaking and coaching site is www.tishconlin.com,
[22:45] SPEAKER_01: TISH, c-o-n-l-n.com.
[22:48] SPEAKER_01: I have developed some online courses I'm really thrilled with and I've been building my affiliate network,
[22:53] SPEAKER_01: which I'm really excited about.
[22:55] SPEAKER_01: So I've transformational health and success, six session videos.
[22:59] SPEAKER_01: And you can subscribe to my newsletter there for my talent services company,
[23:04] SPEAKER_01: my consulting firm.
[23:06] SPEAKER_01: It's global, www.triplew.com, consultinggroup.ca.
[23:10] SPEAKER_01: And you can learn more about us there.
[23:12] SPEAKER_01: We've lots of tips and tools for job seekers and for people, small business owners as well,
[23:18] SPEAKER_01: on both sites and both have newsletters you can subscribe to.
[23:22] SPEAKER_01: Or you can connect with me on LinkedIn.
[23:23] SPEAKER_01: I have, it's Patricia Conlin, Patricia Brackett's TISH Conlin on LinkedIn or other social media,
[23:31] SPEAKER_01: Facebook as well, we have the page and Instagram and Twitter.
[23:36] SPEAKER_00: Well, thanks very much TISH.
[23:38] SPEAKER_00: We kind of bumped into each other about four years ago.
[23:41] SPEAKER_00: Yes.
[23:41] SPEAKER_00: It's nice seeing you and appreciate the input.
[23:46] SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
[23:46] SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you very much for having me. It's been my pleasure.
[23:49] SPEAKER_01: It's been a great show. Thank you so much.
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